The sun rises

sunrise-11142015Some mornings one wonders.

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  1. khal spencer Says:

    Well, at least those ISIS assholes didn’t time their celebration for the final stage of Le Tour. Or shall we hold our tongues?

    • Patrick O'Grady Says:

      They surely don’t need any ideas, do they? The West seems to have trouble learning how much damage a handful of determined people can do with Mikhail Timofeyevich Kalashnikov’s handiwork and a little extra boom for effect. The F-35 doesn’t seem to be much of a deterrent.

      • Larry T. Says:

        Oh, the irony! “How many of these mofo’s do we have to kill before they understand that violence is not the answer?” All while most of our political leaders cry out for ever more tax $$ for military adventures against a bunch of fanatics with little more than AK-47’s and Toyota 4X4 pickups. You know what my wife says…

      • Patrick O'Grady Says:

        “Light-Horse Harry” Lee and Francis “The Swamp Fox” Marion must be shaking their heads in the afterlife. Ditto Mao Zedong, Che Guevara and Võ Nguyên Giáp. “Didn’t you people learn anything from us?”

      • khal spencer Says:

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      • khal spencer Says:

        How do you deter someone who is suicidal, works cheap, doesn’t require more than a thousand bucks worth of weaponry, and is bound and determined by their ideology? Meanwhile, the F-35 is a colossal boondoggle. We could probably bribe every ISIS fighter out of fighting us for the price of one or two of those stupid things.

        Meanwhile, I have no idea what to do. If you leave them alone, they will probably do the same thing as if we attack them. You can’t kill your way out of an ideology. Well, not by any tactics that the West will be willing to use. But the story of what Rome did to Carthage admittedly crossed my mind yesterday when I got back from a bike ride in Boulder and our long suffering hosts told me there had been a massive terrorist attack in Paris.

      • Steve O Says:

        I’m a numbers guy. So I have to wonder, maybe this is just the natural state of things. We are a flawed species, and we seem to need a certain amount of violence in our lives. Guns, Ahnald movies, the NFL, pro wrassling. When crime goes down, we invent Ultimate Fighting ™.

        Madmen have never had a problem assembling armies. I asked the same question for four years of military history: how did General So-and-So get all of these folks to join his army, way before the GI Bill or TriCare? Half of the fuckers typically didn’t even speak the CO’s language. And there are never enough sergeants major at the rear of the formation to keep everyone in line. To some extent, some indeterminable percentage of history’s rank and file just wanted to be there.

        I want to believe that the arrow of progress only flies in one direction. I want to believe all of the statistical analysis that says we live in a safer world. If you count “events” and not just body count, it appears that these are true statements, and the two things that create the impression that they are not is simply media coverage and technology.

        Here’s what scares me: can’t remember who it was, but some futurist, science fiction author, was asked about his technique, and he said that instead of imagining what might happen, he tried to imagine what was inevitable. The question “what might happen?” is just too crazy to get your mind around. If you phrase it instead as “of course such and such will happen, sooner or later,” it puts the future in bite-size morsels. In that context, it does seem inevitable that one of these Looney Tunes will get a nuke sooner or later. In fact, I’m amazed it hasn’t happened already. When has mankind ever kept technology bottled for more than 60 years?

      • Pat O'Brien Says:

        Sending armies or aircraft after the jihadis in a population where they hide is like having a cockroach infested house and deciding to shoot them when they come out with a 12 gauge shotgun. You kill a bunch, but ruin the house in the process, and then the roaches come back. If you get all the live ones, the eggs then hatch. Never ending problem it is. I think you take away their excuses, isolate them, and wait for the locals to finally get rid of them. But the leaders, of all the countries involved in this proxy war in the middle East, have no vision and no courage. I think ISIS is no threat to us, and we should pull out of Iraq, Syrai, and Afghanistan completely, stop all military assistance to the middle East, and tell Israel to pursue a single state solution or go it alone.

  2. Sharon Says:

    A few months after 9-11, I convinced my husband it would be a great time to visit Paris. We had never been before, the flights were reasonable and I thought the security would never be better so I felt safe. Plus we discussed the possibility that the genie was out of the bottle – that more attacks were probably going to happen everywhere, most certainly France. We went and had a spectacular time in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. So bummed that peace and humanity is not enough to soothe over violence. What a f$c&e@ up world in which we live. And at this time, no reason to believe the cancer will stop.

    • Patrick O'Grady Says:

      You chose wisely, Sharon. And yeah, an end to this sort of thing isn’t on the horizon. Doesn’t help that these days bad news rockets around the world in nanoseconds. When you can watch atrocities in real time it’s tough to maintain a sunny outlook.

  3. Pat O'Brien Says:

    I have no words for this kind of cowardice, weakness, and stupidity. Instead of reading more, I went for a ride.

    • Patrick O'Grady Says:

      Also a wise choice. I just opened the Tao Te Ching to a random page and with eyes shut picked the following: “trust your natural responses: Trust the intelligence of the body.” So I went for a ride too.

      Getting my kicks on Route 66

      • Pat O'Brien Says:

        “And everything will fall into place.” I just bought the latest edition, published 2006 by Harper Perennial Modern Classics, of the little book. In addition to the foreword and notes or the past editions, there is a “PS” section with a conversation with Stephen Mitchell on how he went about doing his translation of the Tao, along with a list of books he has written or edited. Interesting stuff.

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