We didn’t watch the “debate” last night, so I don’t have any personal observations to add to this morning’s raving, keening, caterwauling, hair-pulling, wailing, finger-pointing, and general post-shitting-the-bed cacophony.
So consider this an “open thread.” Got any thoughts? Lay ’em on us in comments. Our operators are standing by.
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On advice of my mouthpiece, I invoke the 5th amendment in case dumpster gets elected again. Wouldn’t want the morality police of the christ on a bike national party arresting my funky ass for saying the seven words not allowed on TV.
Shit. I wouldn’t count on the Fifth holding up to scrutiny from the Supremes. We all may be needing lawyers directly.
Anyone with a fucking brain saw this coming when he declared. The Dems lack of vision is blinding.
Señor Steelman … I was riding one of your Eurocrosses today over at Elena Gallegos Open Space. I’d taken a pic if I’d known you were popping by.
I think back to the 2016 campaign, when (as I recall) Obama was said to have taken Joe aside and said: “Sit this one out, Hoss. It’s Hillary’s turn.” Perhaps the worst retail candidate ever. Half the Dems hated her and all of the other folks did. Unfairly, perhaps, but still.
So, without the pressure from On High, maybe the Hilldebeast goes back to casting spells, Joe runs in 2016, beats the fake tycoon from NYC, does it again in 2020, and that’s that. Instead we got this.
Oh, yeah, and there was the whole “building a bridge to the next generation of Democratic leaders” thing. A one-termer, he said. Uh huh. Now, if we could get any kind of a bridge-building project through the Congress, by no means a sure thing, a whole lot of us would be jumping off of it.
Meanwhile, I have a Democrat already fund-raising off last night’s “debate,” telling me via text that it’s critical to take back a majority in the House if the Buffoon Tycoon gets back in. Man, if that ain’t kicking a brother when he’s down I’ve never seen it.
This morning, there was a long line of people offering to throw Sleepy Joe under the bus and then get behind the wheel and drive over him. NY Times, Atlantic, New Yorker, a fair number of columnists. Politics is a nasty thing. You are important until you are disposable.
What surprises me is if the Dems really think this is a Flight 93 election, why didn’t they have a Plan B before last nights debacle? Or even a Plan A? I’ve often thought I had a membership card to The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight. Seems to be true.
“When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream, and shout.”
Did everyone forget that Obama was nearly written off after sleepwalking through his first debate with the Mittster? The predictable outcome of a circular firing squad? Does anybody know how to play this game?
It feels as though the wonks were just sharpening their knives and awaiting any opportunity to park them in Biden’s back without a clue as to what happens next. Ordinarily there’s a long conga line of candidates-in-waiting, but the chatter this election cycle has been deafening in its silence.
Where’s Mayor Pete? You couldn’t pry him loose of the news cycle with a crowbar there for a while, but lately? Bupkis. Practically nobody’s taking Kamala seriously, which, thanks a lot, fellas, the veep gig being your basic “bucket of warm spit,” as Cactus Jack Garner is said to have quipped.
Nobody’s got a profile higher than Kilroy and the people who know Biden best certainly haven’t done us any service by draping an FDR/JFK blackout curtain around his alleged senility, fragility, and decrepitude.
Meanwhile, his bounce-back during the campaign stop seems to have gone largely unremarked upon.
We all knew he was old enough to fart dust — hell, half or more of us are likewise — but here we are in the middle of the stream and where’s our spare hoss? Tom Nichols, who has his own concerns, walks us through a few of the procedural difficulties and the likelihood of the Donks being able to surmount them at The Atlantic.
Most of us keep a fire extinguisher handy in case, like, y’know, a fire, like, breaks out, an’ shit. The Donks and the press seem to think they can light Biden up and piss him out, but then what? Ashes and piss on the floor and nary a custodian in sight. Also, the fire ain’t even close to out.
Pete is the smartest and has the best leadership skills. But he’s gay. Kamala knows her way around congress and the law. She’s of mixed race and a woman. Both would bury dumpster in a debate or general campaigning, but they are unelectable for all the wrong reasons. Liz Cheney would be great too, and though she has blonde hair and blue eyes, she is, well, a woman. Old white guys with money determine who you get. After 75 trips around the sun being a good citizen, worrying about this political shit show is hurting me mentally and physically. So, I simply don’t give a damn anymore.
I’m so tired of the old white guys with money. They’ve been wiping their fat asses with my ballot since 1972.
Big Gretch would be my choice. I have a good friend in Michigan and in his words, she was not his first choice but the longer she is in office, the more impressed he is with her. Rather than paraphrase:
“…I have followed Governor Whitmer since 2018. She was not my first choice in the primary then, but she won me over with her responses to Covid, the attempted kidnapping, the election mess in 2020 with some groups here, and her win against a certified lunatic in 2022. She has a skill and method to her actions that have conveyed a seriousness and thoughtful grasp of real issues, not faux outrage. Although even rural Michigan has its share of right wing crazies, it is not Alabama. She has benefitted from the actions of her opponents, like the former speaker of the state house having an affair with his sister in law when she was underage to the most recent incident with a state rep who boasts of being all about family values and then got caught chasing a stripper down the street while he was brandishing a handgun at 230 AM in Lansing. He called his arrest “suspicious” He will probably win his primary later in July….”
For more about Big Gretch, see this Q&A in The New York Times.
I said months ago it would be a huge mistake for Joe to give that guy who lies, and then lies some more, one second of screen time. Turns out it was beyond a huge mistake for Joe. However, there could be a silver lining. Donks have plenty of time to huddle and hopefully change quarterbacks. It would be a big relief and the right candidate (like Big Gretch here in the Mitten State) would crush Orange Hitler and POB could cuss all he wants. Meanwhile the Supremes just set back US environmental measures 30 years just in one day. And loosened the legal grip on Jan/6 assholes. Think they got energized after the debate to kiss the rings of those who give them all those perks? I mean using a private jet to go party is well worth killing off a few thousand poor folks who can’t escape pollutants from a refinery?
Whichever genius said, “Fuck yeah, we’ll debate his criminal ass!” should be launched into deep space in a Boeing Dumpster full of rotting cod and rabid raccoons.
Don’t get me started on the Supremes. What are the odds that they announce Ginger Hitler has complete and utter immunity to prosecution? No, don’t tell me; I don’t wanna know.
The good news is, the press has the story it loves: “DEMS IN DISARRAY!”
I stopped watching after about 20 minutes. Biden mumbled and fumbled but I didn’t think it was as bad as some say. I turned it off rather than listen to any more of Trump’s Vesuvius of lies and bullshit. I’d repeat what my stepdad asked me over the phone a few months ago, but the Secret Service might be listening.
Like Herb, I’d be happy to see Big Gretch run, at least based on what I have read about her. I think she would be a formidable foe for The Dumpster. Not so keen on anyone from the People’s Republic of California or from NY running. I think they would win the coasts and lose the election. People like Newsom make my skin crawl. He reminds me of a used car salesman in the worst possible stereotypes. I think Kamala would lose.
But a gerontocracy is the best we can do? God help us. But God seems to have a perverted sense of humor these days.
Hey, as far as that Chevron reversal? Look on the bright side. If the Orange Turd does win, I would prefer the Executive Branch have as little power as possible. As someone once said, keep it small enough to drown it in a bathtub.
I think it was a horror show for the Biden and the Democrats.
Immediately when Joe won the presidency I said to anyone who would listen I was hoping he would announce that he and Kamala were just one term placeholders; they were the right candidates at the time to defeat Trump but not the best the Democrats could offer over two terms. I was particularly focused on Joe’s age. Unfortunately my worries seemed to have come true.
And it’s too late to find a replacement…
Two points from the “debate”.
One, Biden was not on his A game, but Trump wasn’t either. Biden was a little slower than usual, but his answers were at least related to the questions from the moderators. Mango Mussolini was his usual self and his answers were barely English. Well he used English words, but that sentence construction was closer to Klingon or Nihongo. But with more adverbs and adverbial clauses.
Yeah, most pundits are brushing right past the blizzard of bald-faced lies, word salad, and freestyling nonsense as though it wasn’t any sort of problem (“Trump gonna Trump,” etc.). The important thing, it seems, is that we all recognize immediately that the old dude we knew was old is an old dude.
It’s time for the dems to make a bold move. They must nominate someone who would go after dumpster and congress with complete ruthlessness and in plain English. Problem is no one comes to mind for me.
I’m not sure “bold” is in the Donk toolkit. Lots of soft rubber hammers to gauge knee-jerk reactions, a few well-used dildos, a feather duster, and a quart jar of Doc Johnson’s Sta-Long Love Lube™.
I thought I was a commie/socialist/liberal democrat but I checked the various tool kits I have around and didn’t have any of those. So maybe I actually am an independent? I did verify that for some reason I have an over abundance of 9/16 wrenches and no idea why.
Ninety minutes of my life wasted on a lying, insane load of Eastern white trash spew his “nonsensical views and bile” over the air. Joltin’ Joe needs to reboot or bag the race. I watched the debacle and thought that whatever afterlife there is Nixon is saying and people thougnt I was an asshole, guess what idjits you wrong. The dems are living up to Will Rogers comment ” I don’t belong to an organized party, I am a Democrat.”
The party needs to look outside its urban bias, Enslee of WA. and Bullock of MT younger and middle-of-the-road politicos could win. Besides they are white guys and the right tilt of this country would favor them.
I looked up residency and citizen requirements for Slovenia and being second generation, I am eligible for both. The Supremes and the repubs will ruin this country, too much religion and greed will screw us all. MY father would kill me after WW2 for saying that but these are scary times.