He’s baaaaaaaack

Will he or won't he?

Will he or won’t he?

From Juliet Macur at The New York Times. Discuss.

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37 Responses to “He’s baaaaaaaack”

  1. GJ John Says:

    Well, there goes my New Year’s resolution.

  2. Jay Fromkin Says:

    I am so past caring.

  3. khal spencer Says:

    If he levels with us, I’ll push to the front of the line to buy him a host of beers. Regardless of the motive, it will clear up a snowdrift of shit we all have been living with.

  4. James Says:

    And I “may” actually care. Alas though this has jumped the shark, and much like the bottle of wine I found the other night: way past its prime.

    • khal spencer Says:

      Its not at the top of my list either, James, but sure would be nice to finally put this whole goddamn story to bed.

      • Libby Says:

        But, Khal, Armstrong and ‘it’, won’t go away! Armstrong: he will be do interviews in all media forms, including an hour on Charlie Rose, and Piers Morgan plus Dateline, 60 Minutes, Today. He will ‘write’ op-eds, another book or two and appear on panels and do public speaking. Lots of people will get off on all the details and gossip he’ll serve up for a pay day. He’ll organize events and go on Survivor. Then there’s all the other legal stuff and crazy relationships in the cycling world. He’ll find ways to manipulate and bully people, including the same people he’s already victimized. He can’t because he’s been outed? Au contraire, once he can start using his ‘voice’/pulpit again he can smear and swamp them again – he may not fool you – but he can cause headaches for them. When he confesses it also opens the door for him to gain “spiritual mentors” and financial backers/charity. Oh I wish he could just go away, but after reading Macur’s article not matter what happens he isn’t going away.

      • Patrick O'Grady Says:

        Yup, this is what I have been anticipating. I thought it would take longer, though — a decade or so of doing the “Rosebud” bit at one of his Xanadus, watching the money run out, putting on weight, growing more bitter by the day.

        This is a guy who simply cannot conceive of a world that doesn’t revolve around him. He’s gonna climb right back up that mountain and start shitting on folks again.

      • Derek Lenahan Says:

        Libby, if you stop watching TV all of the people you named cease to matter. So stop.

    • Larry T. Says:

      I think you’ve got it Patrick – the guy simply can NOT bear to no longer be a celebrity. Just as he did anything and everything to win, he’ll do anything and everything in an attempt to be relevant. What would really serve this spoiled brat right would be for all of us to simply ignore him and anything he’s connected with. If he were to confess I’d say “Thanks for finally owning up to what you’ve done, now pay back ALL the ill-gotten gains, apologize to everyone you’ve screwed over and GO AWAY!”

  5. Libby Says:

    The thought of him competing in anything but sack races or three-legged races with his children is disturbing.

  6. Ryan Surface Says:

    Hey He can still compete in competitive lawn bowling right?

  7. Pat O'Brien Says:

    It will not happen until all the money issues are resolved. His lawyers will negotiate with anyone, person or company, that wants money back and settle it all out of court. Until that happens, and it is probably working right now, I don’t expect to hear any confessions or other statements of any kind.

    • Patrick O'Grady Says:

      I wish I knew something about money (other than that I don’t have any, that is). Whaddaya want to bet he’s got a ton of the ol’ ill-gotten gains squirreled away in unbreakable trusts for the kids? Or in platinum coinage stored in a private submarine circling off the Redneck Riviera?

      • Pat O'Brien Says:

        Absolutely! Just like a smart NFL, NBA, or MLB player, except for smaller stakes. Last I read was that he was worth about $125M. Serious beer money! No INBEV or Coors/ Miller brews at that level!

      • GJ John Says:

        I seriously doubt that a narcissist like this guy is gonna stash any, or at least not much, cash for his kids. The kids will end up with just enough so he doesn’t look like he’s gyping them, but most hidden cash this guy has he’s probably got earmarked for himself.

      • Larry T. Says:

        The prick is/was a partner in a gold mine with TV’s Heckel and Jeckel so I’d bet he’s got loads of dough stashed in places out-of-the-reach of any authorities. This WAS the fellow who wrote (or more likely told Sally Jenkins) that in his world how much loot you had determined your value as a person, sort of how “we keep score” as I recall. Don’t think for a minute this a-hole will ever end up back in a cheapo apartment on the bad side of Austin! But we can dream, no?

  8. khal spencer Says:

    Libby–Short of a Saul to Paul conversion, I would be unimpressed.

  9. Pat O'Brien Says:

    I forgot to add, if the statute of limitations has expired on any of the money deal, then LA will tell them to go pound ass up their ass. And I think Libby is right. If he does confess, LA will make a buck off of it anyway he can. This ain’t no bible story, this is a money walks and bullshit talks deal at this stage, pun intended.

  10. Pat O'Brien Says:

    Brother, I need more coffee and less ‘puter. I meant pound sand.

  11. Debby Says:

    The only way I can see TCWSNBN ever admitting to anything is if his financial management team felt there was money to be made by doing so, and if his legal team felt they had all the legal aspects covered. TCWSNBN, Inc. – a for-profit enterprise.

  12. GJ John Says:

    He already succeeded at one thing: his name is back all over the news sites. Not just NYT, but Yahoo Sports has done an editorial about him, HuffPo has done a story on the NYT story, and by later today I expect even my local bird cage liner to add its echo to the noise. The chamois sniffers should be out in force any time now repeating that ridiculous “he leveled the playing field” gibberish. Yep, here we go again. Geez, why can’t this guy and his bib shorts full of crap just go the fuck away?

  13. Libby Says:

    Another potential source of revenue for Lance is selling the rights to his books.
    I also wish he would go away, I’m suggesting he won’t.

  14. Andy Bohlmann Says:

    I confess, too.

    I did drugs.

    Now, I feel better….

  15. GJ John Says:

    Lost in a lot of the discussion about TCWSNBN is the peripheral “mini” scandals that we haven’t heard much about at all (most of this is from Hamilton’s book):

    1. To any chamois sniffers who think that doping just “leveled the playing field”, I say b.s. TCWSNBN had a deal with Ferrari that Ferrari wouldn’t work with anyone other than TCWSNBN and his team. Most of the rest had to see Fuentes, who didn’t know half of Ferrari knew and who Hamilton referred to as a “con man”. Just one of TCWSNBN’s competitive advantages (the biggy being that the UCI was covering for him).

    2. Remember Chris Carmichael, who marketed himself as TCWSNBN’s coach? His name hasn’t come up much, has it? Looks like he wasn’t TCWSNBN’s coach, but provided convenient and lucrative cover for TCWSNBN actual coach, Ferrari. Anyone who handed Carmichael money thinking they were getting help from TCWSNBN’s coach were misled (if not ripped off).

    3. Both TCWSNBN and Phil Liggit had (or still have) investments in the gold mine Paul Sherwin’s owns in Uganda. So Phil and Paul were business partners with TCWSNBN. Goes a ways toward explaining why P&P seemingly felated TCWSNBN (figuratively speaking…I hope) at every opportunity.

    TCWSNBN was a cancer on the sport to say the least, but looks like he got lots of help along the way.

  16. bromasi Says:

    I’m going back to bed.

  17. Stan Thomas Says:

    Beer me Floyd…

  18. Pat O'Brien Says:

    After all the shit he went through with the big C, he probably had a Ron Blago moment after a few beers with Bobke. He realized that this story is golden, and I ain’t just going to give it away. Man got harder, tougher, smarter, and smoother, and milked that cow for everything he could. It became all about the money, and showing the Euros that they were all small potatoe bullshit. The American way, by god. If ain’t against the law, no jail time at risk, then it’s fair. This is pro sports. If you want fair then go watch your kids play ball in the school yard. So here we are. Stan, you are right. Set me up Floyd, beers all around on me.

  19. Jon Paulos Says:

    I’m with Debby about it not happening until the money and legal stars align. So why now, given that those stars haven’t aligned and aren’t going to in the near future?

    I wonder if the timing is because of Johan Bruyneel’s upcoming hearing with the CAS.

    “Lance, this is Johan. I’m going to need you to pay me a lot more hush money this year if you really expect me to keep my mouth shut at my CAS hearing”.

    “Johan, that’s kind of steep. I think I’ll negotiate you down by floating a trial balloon in public about coming clean. That ought you scare you enough to lower your price. If you think I’m willing to come clean then you’ll think you don’t have any leverage over me.”

    • Jon Paulos Says:

      On second thought, maybe it finally hit home that he’s going to have some very big bills to pay soon and this is the message to Verbruggen and McQuaid that he’s going to need hush money from them. After all, they’ve probably got the deep pockets.

      If this is the case he’d be following a tried and true legal practice in liability cases. Sue everybody in sight, then settle with the ones with the deep pockets and just ruin the rest.

      “Pat and Hein, I’m going to need a lot of money pretty soon, and so if you want me to keep clam I’m going to need a few mill. Pay up if you don’t want my evidence of bribery to take you down.”

      No need to call them at all. Just tell the NY Times that you’re “mulling a confession” and wait for the phone to ring.

  20. Wideload Says:

    “I used to do a lot of drugs, well I still do, but I used to, too.” Mitch Hedberg

  21. Larry T. Says:

    Did one of BigTex’s Santa Barbara training routes yesterday. Fueled only by Trader Joe’s bite-sized, maple-flavored, whole wheat cereal I might add.

  22. Ira Says:

    Like I said before, it’s all for SHTS and LAFS…

  23. Sharon Says:

    Maybe he confesses to stay off the witness stand and/or jail. The way I understand it, they are going to call him as witness to Bruyneel’s case. If he lies, he risks jail time. If he doesn’t lie, he confesses. My guess is that he wants to confess in the way he wants to, not on the witness stand. And he and Bruyneel do it together and get some sort of a deal. It’s probably why there was a delay in Bruyneel’s case being heard. Obviously he wants the other legal issues settled as well before the confession. So look in the next couple of weeks for all other cases to be settled to set the stage for the public confession. The interesting thing will be what the LS folks will be saying after the confession, “…he really didn’t do it, they made him lie and say he did it.It’s always been a witch hunt”

  24. Steve O Says:

    I’m not wishing nothing on no one … But you just know there are a bunch of sports writers praying he gets cancer, beats it, then confesses, blames his cancer on doping, then runs for public office vowing to clean things up. The GAP would eat it up.

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